webmail saga continues

I was pleased to see a reply from Daniel as a reaction to my post. I read and re-read the blog couple of times yesterday and another time today to question my own understanding and see if there is anyway I could make life easier and simpler for myself and other people whom I interact with but finding it somewhat of an uphill task. I will not be limiting myself to e-mail alone as I feel until we don’t get/share the big picture it would remain incomplete.

Allow to share me few observations below –

1. The first one is probably cultural in nature (either specific to India or its worldwide I have no contextual information.) Very early in my professional and personal life I understood that e-mails are leaky by design. By leaky I mean being leaked by individuals for profit or some similar motive.

Also e-mails are and were used as misinformation tools by companies and individuals then and now or using sub-set or superset of them without providing contextual information in which they were written. While this could be construed as giving straw man I do not know any other way. So the best way, at least for me is to construct e-mails in a way where even if some information is leaked, I’m ok with it being leaked or being in public domain. It just hurts less. I could probably give 10-15 high-profile public outings in the last 2-3 years itself. And these are millionaires and billionaires, people on whom many people rely on their livelihoods should have known better. In Indian companies, for communications they do have specific clauses where any communication you had with them is subject to privacy and if you share it with somebody you would be prosecuted, on the other hand if the company does it, it gets a free pass.

2. Because of my own experiences I have been pretty circumspect/slightly paranoid of anybody promising or selling the cool-aid of total privacy. Another example which is of slightly recentish vintage and pains me even today was a Mozilla add-on for which I had done RFP (Request for Package) which a person for pkg-mozext-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org (probably will be moved to salsa in near future) packaged and I thanked him/her for it. Two years later it came to fore that under the guise of protecting us from bad cookies or whatever the add-on was supposed to do, it was actually tracking us and selling this information to third-parties.

This was found out by some security researcher casually auditing the code two years down the line (not mozilla) and then being confirmed by other security researchers as well. It was a moment of anguish for me as so many people’s privacy had been invaded even though there were good intentions from my side.

It was also a bit sad as I had assumed (perhaps incorrectly) that Debian does do some automated security audit along with hardening flags that it uses when a package is built. This isn’t to show Debian in a bad light but to understand and realize that Debian has its own shortcomings in many ways. I did hear recently that lot of packages from Kali would make it to Debian core, hopefully some of those packages could also serve as an additional tool to look at packages when they are being built 🙂

I do know it’s a lot to ask for as Debian is a volunteer effort. I am happy to test or whichever way I can contribute to Debian if in doing so we can raise the bar for intended or unintended malicious apps. to go through. I am not a programmer but still I’m sure there might be somehow I could add strength to the effort.

3. The other part is I don’t deny that Google is intrusive. Google is intrusive not just in e-mail but in every way, every page that uses Google analytics or the google Spider search-engine be used for tracking where you are and what you are doing. The way they have embedded themselves in web-pages is it has become almost impossible to see almost all web-pages (some exceptions remain) without allowing google.com to see what you are seeing. I use requestpolicy-continued to know what third-party domains are there on web-page and I see fonts.googleapis.com, google.com and some of the others almost all the time. The problem there is we also don’t know how much information google gathers. For e.g. even if I don’t use Google search engine and if I am searching on any particular topic and if 3-4 of the websites use google for any form or manner, it would be easy to know the information and the line/mode or form of the info. I’m looking for. That actually is same if not more of a problem to me than e-mails and I have no solution for it. Tor and torbrowser-launcher are and were supposed to be an answer to this problem but most big CDNs (Content Distributor Networks) like cloudfare.com are against it so privacy remains an elusive dream there as well.

5. It becomes all the more dangerous when in mobile space where Google Android is the only vendor. The rise of carrier-handset locking which is prevalent in the west has also started making inroads in India. In the manufacturer-carrier-Operating System complex such things will become more common. I have no idea about other vendors but from what I have seen I think the majority might probably be doing the same. IPhone is supposed to also have lot of nastiness where it comes to surveillance.

6. My main worry for protonmail or any other vendor is should we just take them at face-value or is there some other way for people around the world to be assured and in case things take a worse time be possible to file claim for damages if those terms and conditions are not met. I looked to see if I could find an answer to this question which I asked in my previous post and I looked but didn’t find any appropriate answer in your post. The only way I see out of is decentralized networks and apps but they too leave much to be desired. Two examples I can share of the latter. Diaspora started with the idea that I could have my profile in one pod, if for some reason I didn’t like the pod, I could take all the info. to another pod with all the messages, everything in an instant. At least till few months back, I tried to migrate to another pod and found that feature doesn’t work/still a work in progress.

Similarly, zeronet.io is another service which claimed to use de-centralization but for last year or so I haven’t been able to send one email to another user till date.

I used both these examples as both are foss and both have considerable communities and traction built around them. Security or/and anonymity is still at a lower path though as of yet.

I hope I was able to share where I’m coming from.